well, had a loooooooong conversation with the missus again after being accused of being overly critical of the borg.. .
i stated that i thought the borg was marvellous, full of really good people, (in our experience, it has been so far), but that i had difficulty with the dogmatic stance we had on certain issues that we couldn't possibly be sure about, and that if i were to vocalise any of these issues and unrepentantly not change my thinking, then i could be df'd for that, which i view as an unloving bullying tactic.
organ transplants, vaccinations, (jah will resurrect, don't worry), new understandings of the fads and generations etc... particularly the thought that only jw's will be saved.
Whenever they make a claim that you know is untrue, challenge them to find you an article that proves their claim. That way, they have to do some research themselves.
Every paragraph that suggests non JWs may survive, goes on to mean the opposite when read carefully in context. Try to get her to work that out herself.
for those of you who have a minute to read this, here is a report from my family trip.. i was in florida for the holidays visiting my older sister and family, along with my parents which were also visiting.. although i've had conversations with my mother about the organization, my sister and her family had no idea of my position in regards to the (un)truth - perhaps because we live far away from each other.
i knew the day was coming.... on my second day there, the whole family was sitting around bs-ing about different stuff, and as usual my mother starts with the "world is getting worse by the day" conversation, followed by approving nods and smart remarks from the rest of the family.
i then politely told them that this was not true, that in fact the world has never been better.
Good job. My advice now, would be to get them trying to demonstrate you were wrong on those subjects rather than feeding them more 'Apostate' info.
My lot backed down with a thorough job done on the few subjects I chose to give them. They didn't leave but they behave themselves around me. They don't have the balls to leave.
she replied to one of my posts.
my hope for you is that you will see "the truth about the truth".
i will be myself on this forum, as it has helped me immensly over the past 20 months.
Welcome to the forum
"I let my mother instinct kick in this morning..."
The more you let you mother instinct override your JW training, the better your relationships with your non-JW kids will be. You chose to raise her in a religion with a history of failed prophetic mumbo jumbo, so according to Deut 18:20-22 you don't have any high ground to look down your kids from if they don't join, or leave.
I've apologized to my kids. What are you going to do?
Chris
i don't know about the rest of you, but i have seen my fair share of death.
both sets of grandparents, aunts and uncles, older jws that were pillars in the community.
i even knew the first missionary in missouri, a brother named gerald golf.
If there is a heaven, my dad will be joining Rutherford at the gates of hell, greeting their converts.
is the united nations letter about watchtower's involvement from 1991 to 2001 still available on the united nations webpage?.
The answer to the OP is available from the UN at Ask DAG - United Nations FAQ database
http://ask.un.org/a.php?qid=571773
It can be found by Seaching for "watchtower pdf" site:un.org
this week in the brochure for the "bible reading" it states on subject 24. that jehovahs witnesses wrote a century ago that jehovahs bacjs us and we do t take donations "and we never have!!!!
".....please someone post the information to prove this as a lie as we all know they used to charge for literature.
this is an outright lie lol ridiculous..
It's here Muddy. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jehovahs-will/worldwide-work-financed/
Part of 'Who Are Doing Jehovah’s Will Today?'
Downloads http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jehovahs-will/
They hate it that you haven't been listening. They are the ones with the Truth, not you.
i keep finding references to the wts replying in a letter the following (a letter dated march 15, 1983) anyone know where i can get an actual scan of this?:.
no doubt you have had opportunity to read the comments in our letter dated december 31, 1982, to brother jack gottfried, secretary of your congregation.
in our letter we addressed the issue of the propriety of the society in quoting johannes greber's translation as an example of another translation that agreed with the new world translation.
Try Ken Raines
i was a born in.
both parents are uber dubs and mother has been depressed lately.
so i m super nervous.
You don't have to throw the whole trash can at them. I reckon it's better to do a thorough job on one subject than a half pie job on several. Pick one that undermines selection as God's channel as that is the sand the whole castle is built on.
i can't believe hubby and sis in law actually went out in service today.
when he left this morrning i reminded him to inform those who didn't slam their doors on them that if they join your cult that this will be the last christmas, holiday and birthday they will be allowed to celebrate.
i thought it very inapproiate going out today to knock on doors trying to get converts..
Did he tell them Jehovah is going to kill their babies if they didn't join his church?
... and then wish them a Merry Christmas? ...
